POLL: Do You Agree with the Ravi Sentence?

Porterincollingswood May 23, 2012 at 12:25 pm

Eleanor, is your take he should have been acquitted? Or merely that the sentence was acceptable? Just checking.
PS - Ravi could have said "no". He chose not to, and then he chose to act in the manner he did. Which, I think we can all agree, was a poor decision.

Porterincollingswood May 23, 2012 at 12:31 pm

Coeds hooking up with strangers!!?!? Even if they don't know who they are, or maybe even their names!?!? ON A COLLEGE CAMPUS!?!?!
Well, I just don't believe it. I won't believe it. Next you'll be telling me that these kids are having a second (perhaps, gasp, a THIRD) Captain Morgan or SoCo before calling it a night. Before we know it they'll be listening to the rocking and roll musical programs at high decibel levels! And dancing! Dancing! In public! I blame the Betty Grable posters and Vatican II.

Winston May 23, 2012 at 12:55 pm

I am sure he was making his parents proud hooking up with old men in chat rooms, Craigslist, rest stop rest rooms and adult book stores. Yes a very healthy lifestyle.

flying flamer May 23, 2012 at 01:02 pm

@david..that's why I asked the question bro. My guess is you need to read up too since you couldn't answer the question

Porterincollingswood May 23, 2012 at 01:10 pm

I bet his parents are prouder of him than Ravi's are of Ravi.
Or you can just keep making up stuff, as usual.

tomas May 23, 2012 at 02:05 pm

Que? are you implying that I do not like homosexuals? Kind of a wierd thing to assume since you don't anything about me, my family or any of our sexual orientations? Have fine being blind and ignorant

tomas May 23, 2012 at 02:05 pm

*fun

David Smith May 23, 2012 at 02:23 pm

@Winston,Actually it's the GOP hooking up in restrooms. You could at least get your rhetoric correct. Moreover, and as usual your homophobic behavior is becoming obvious. Perhaps coming out of the closet would help with that self loathing. You are way too concerned with the gay aspect of this case and not the criminal behavior of Ravi.

Opinionated May 23, 2012 at 03:06 pm

Thank you, Diana. To Eggs, just because someone "held their own" does not justify others to become so-called "cyber-bullies". But then the Constitution allows us be jerks and say nasty, hurtful, and stupid things. Unless of course, we allow political correctness to eliminate free speech. Be careful though, you may be the next one to be silenced.

ryan May 23, 2012 at 03:51 pm

I love it you are so typical you have no facts but you spew your hate about other people. I bet you have a Che Guevara shirt right bud and you love to protest against the man in between smoking doobies . Also I am sorry that your mommy and daddy didn't give you love you needed. Take care!

Winston May 23, 2012 at 04:34 pm

Smith....GOP? Who cares what their old gay guys do. It validates that this behaviour is part of their normal lifestyle.

David Smith May 23, 2012 at 04:51 pm

It's the normal behavior of the closeted hypocrites. Moreover, it's irrelevant to this case. The "oh look a chicken" argument isn't going to cut it.

David Smith May 23, 2012 at 04:55 pm

@ Neil, As you say it is debated. What isn't debated is the fact that states have laws protecting your privacy and Ravi broke those laws. However, cudos for knowing your SCOTUS rulings.

David Smith May 23, 2012 at 04:57 pm

@Winston, Funny how you seem to be so familiar with the worst stereotypes of the homosexual community. Lots of intimate personal research I'm sure.

Dan May 23, 2012 at 05:42 pm

Most of the polls they do here don't give you much in the way of choices, so I don't answer them. Regarding the sentence, I don't know what the "right" sentence should have been, but 30 days doesn't feel "right" to me.

Eggs-n-Toast May 23, 2012 at 06:41 pm

Opinionated:
Discussing or even Debating an issue, with logic, patience, and respectful language (no names or outlandish generalizations) is not "cyber-bullying". As far as I recall, I held myself to that standard. Pam however, didn't always do the same. She was not bullied by me, and I really don't think by anyone else either. Just because she was outnumbered and her arguments didn't "win" (because she was wrong, overall) doesn't mean she was bullied. She wasn't tied to a chair and forced to reply, either. Why create a 'bullying issue' where there was none?

Eggs-n-Toast May 23, 2012 at 06:44 pm

That's a very reasonable way to put it, Dan.

Eggs-n-Toast May 23, 2012 at 06:54 pm

Michelle -- You said:
"The 30 day sentence had nothing to do with Tyler's murder per se." If you switched out the word "murder" with "suicide".... I'd agree with your entire post, 100%. I really believe the judge went a little too easy on Ravi for the crimes he was actually found guilty of in court.

jerry moore May 24, 2012 at 03:58 am

I understand about bullying & Gay Bashing, in these times when so many people & instutations, are so hyper-sensitive about these subjects I would ask...If it had been the other way around, If a Gay student surveiled his hetero room mate & put it on the internet, & for whatever reason that hetero student took a dive off of a bridge, would that Gay student even have been charged?
I think we all know the answer he wouldn't have been. The fact is he did not cause that student's death, the young man took his own life, obviously he was mentally instable, I doubt anyone can say that this young person would not have found some other rational to end his life had this not happened, not saying what Mr. Ravi did was right, just that I believe it was not criminal.

project bluebeam May 24, 2012 at 04:21 am

i,m sure winston woke up more than once with his underwear on backwards. lol usually in the parkway rest stops. lol

Winston May 24, 2012 at 11:25 am

Bluebeam...if you could read you would see I was responding to a left wing loon making a derogatory comment about a gay politician...
Left wing PC bullying isn't tolerated by me.

Michelle Wolfson May 24, 2012 at 02:02 pm

@Paul and @EggsnToast
Woops! I totally meant to write "suicide" and not "murder". Hmmm interesting though... honest typo or Freudian slip? lol

Paul J. DiBartolo May 24, 2012 at 04:16 pm

Stop it, @Michelle, you're scaring me...and that takes a lot!

Bob July 4, 2012 at 02:41 pm

Okay it simple he should have more jail time and should pay more no amount of money is worth a life and he practically took a life he caused someone to take there own so it must have been very difficult 2 deal with it

Ellen July 4, 2012 at 03:37 pm

Not nearly enough time. He can continue his voyuer career in India.

ObjectiveObserver July 5, 2012 at 09:21 pm

Ravi didn't cause Clementi's death. Ravi caused Clementi's pain, and Clementi's pain is what motivated Clementi to take his own life. There is no question that Ravi is NOT guilty of Clementi's death. Now that has been established, we have to PROVE in a court of law (with evidence and affidavits) what exactly Ravi's intended the pain to bring to Clementi. PROVING an intention requires that there be no other possible intention discernible from the evidence. If something is proven, it is factual. Now there are plenty of things which suggest that Ravi's intentions were more malicious than he was convicted for, but again these things SUGGEST- they DONT PROVE that Ravi had more malicious intentions than he was convicted for. Therefore if we do believe in the law of the land (innocent unless PROVEN guilty) we would all take an OBJECTIVE stance free of emotions and our personal beliefs in convicting and sentencing Ravi. Clementi was an idiot for taking his life. Suicide is never the answer, and we are taught that from a young age. Obviously if he felt emotional distress it was from far before Ravi came into the picture. Ravi was just the tipping point. Who knows if Tyler's own family, friends, and peers (in high school) bullied him in the same way as Ravi? Why wasn't any of that investigated? If Ravi were the first to attack clementi, and it did not result in Clementi's death then we would not be holding him accountable. (It is hard to believe Ravi alone caused clementi's death).

noah idear July 5, 2012 at 09:59 pm

bullying should not be tolerated ;)

Joe R July 6, 2012 at 05:53 pm

Wow, Movado is quite the class act. I get it, he hates gay people, approves of the beating and killing of gay people. We don't need no stinking laws or justice; there is the Movado justice system of kill, kill, kill and then kill some more. Ignorance, intolerance and violence...that's the way to go, according to some of the Neanderthal commenters. Oh wait, that's an insult to Neanderthals.

Ilovelacey July 16, 2012 at 12:36 pm

Community service full time 2 years at Popcorn Zoo. Delaying his privilege to attend our Colleges and reserve the classrooms to real students who are there to get an education ,, Very sad.

Zach August 26, 2012 at 01:51 am

Suppose Tyler took a baseball bat and smashed in Ravi's skull. Or something less but left him seriously injured. Would if be fair to say Tyler was just responding appropriately to being bullied? Standing up for himself? Ravi started it? Or would that be assault that the police should handle instead of the school giving Ravi a new roommate? You can play the what if forever. If nothing else, Ravi was the final straw. I think a big problem also was the lack of the school community to stop Ravi or say to him that what he was doing to Tyler was seriously wrong. But, suppose Tyler did beat up Ravi, would that be justice for what Ravi had done? Answer that